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Snack

28-02-2007, 01:32 AM

Right,

so im a fanny hair's off passing me driving test

and as a super dupery reward, im getting a new car, (supposidly 'sharing' it with my mum? fat chance, she can pay for all the petrol though)

Since we dont 'need another one' im only getting around 6,000 to spend

I couldnt give a toss about the sound system

I dont give a rat's arse about its 0-60

All i want is something alright to drive and practical

Any ideas?

Been thinking citroen c2, fiat punto/panda, ford fiesta

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 05:25 AM

[b:32c7a]new fiat punto / and panda are well built and class leaders a pal just bought a panda and is well pleased with it ill get some more info on em and anything else worth buying in this class[/b:32c7a]

Firo

28-02-2007, 08:03 AM

[quote="Snack":6c42e]
been thinking citroen c2, fiat punto/panda, ford fiesta
[/quote:6c42e] looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

and land rover freelander is ftw as a first car <3

Alot better off if you crash as you aren't in a tiny piece of shit that will cripple you.

imported_hinch

28-02-2007, 09:33 AM

focus's are lovely cars to drive. very easy and relaxing they're not all that "sporty" but if you just drive to get to where your going and not drive for the sake of driving then a focus is a good call or a mondeo but a good spec mondeo (with all the gadgets etc) will set you back more than 6k

Firo

28-02-2007, 09:51 AM

Like hinch said the focus is good, just make sure you get a ghia... the zetecs and LX versions are pretty shite imo

Snack

28-02-2007, 11:04 AM

[quote="Firo":a1065]
[quote="Snack":a1065]
been thinking citroen c2, fiat punto/panda, ford fiesta
[/quote:a1065] looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

and land rover freelander is ftw as a first car <3

Alot better off if you crash as you aren't in a tiny piece of shit that will cripple you.[/quote:a1065]

not everyone wipes thier arse with money though

6,000 to spend, and i dont think something insurance grouip 10+ is a good first car <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" title="Razz" />

plus, i dont plan on crashing, so the safety issue doesnt bother me

Firo

28-02-2007, 11:25 AM

[quote="Snack":7c08f]
[quote="Firo":7c08f]
[quote="Snack":7c08f]
been thinking citroen c2, fiat punto/panda, ford fiesta
[/quote:7c08f] looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

and land rover freelander is ftw as a first car <3

Alot better off if you crash as you aren't in a tiny piece of shit that will cripple you.[/quote:7c08f]

not everyone wipes thier arse with money though

6,000 to spend, and i dont think something insurance grouip 10+ is a good first car <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" title="Razz" />

plus, i dont plan on crashing, so the safety issue doesnt bother me[/quote:7c08f] I bought a mint condition late 99 3 door freelander for 3k, insurance was 3k too though....

podge

28-02-2007, 12:53 PM

never been one for the fancy suped up cars (though my brother's an idiot and spent about 10 grand turning his saxo into something resembling a shuttle from star trek). Something a decent size, reasonably engine and comfy to drive. I like my Primera personally.

podge

28-02-2007, 12:53 PM

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 16:27 PM

[b:00d8f]Your idea is the best snack stay small and new .

warranty , cheap insurance , low maintenance , low fuel costs > all

the panda is pretty much trumping everything at the moment and winning bags of awards , as long as you dont thrash little cars they will last you as long as you need them and will hold their residuals when selling on , by which time you will have earned good NCB to up the stakes a bit on your next car instead of spending grandage on insurance for no reason [/b:00d8f]

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 16:33 PM

[b:e13c2]oh and diesels hold value even better but in cars this size fuel cosyts are negligible though you will get mega miles from the diesel [/b:e13c2]

Kyho

28-02-2007, 17:09 PM

i got a ford fiesta and love it <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" title="Razz" />

great for drifting and stuff like that, and accelerates faster than my m8s corrolla

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 17:14 PM

[b:8328b]i had a brand new fiesta while the beast was in for some work i was impressed in fords quality it has improved greatly since days of old was bit gutless though[/b:8328b]

Snack

28-02-2007, 17:44 PM

[quote="Agi'nor":3c3d9]
[b:3c3d9]
the panda is pretty much trumping everything at the moment and winning bags of awards , as long as you dont thrash little cars they will last you as long as you need them and will hold their residuals when selling on , by which time you will have earned good NCB to up the stakes a bit on your next car instead of spending grandage on insurance for no reason [/b:3c3d9]
[/quote:3c3d9]

tar for the info, i'll be popping over to a fiat garage in the next few days to get a better look at what i might be buying <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 18:03 PM

[b:b9271]punto is a good buy but with 6k you will be getting lower spec equipment wise ill have a chat with some car pals elsewhere see what the crack is[/b:b9271]

Qula

28-02-2007, 18:16 PM

Why not just ask Magic to steal one for ya <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt="Mr. Green" title="Mr. Green" />

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 18:52 PM

[b:ebe83]just looking about , if you buy nearly new or higher mileage secondhand sign up to a forum for whatever car you like the look of and see what they are like with a few miles on also dont be afraid to haggle with dealers if you are paying cash you will beamazed what you can squeeze out of the bastards sometimes even with HP[/b:ebe83]

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=3&hassearc hed=Y&make=FIAT&min_pr=6000&source=0&model=PANDA&m ax_pr=7000&miles=1500&agerange=7&mileage=3&postcod e=rh19+3xp&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour =&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=25 &ukcarsearch_full.y=4&start=6&distance=163&adcateg ory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200702266214001:ebe83]panda 1.2[/url:ebe83]

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=&hassearch ed=Y&make=FIAT&min_pr=75&source=0&model=GRANDE+PUN TO&max_pr=6000&miles=100&agerange=&mileage=&postco de=ls7+2lr&bodyid=0&fuelid=0&colour=&transmissioni d=0&ukcarsearch_full.x=58&ukcarsearch_full.y=13&st art=6&distance=90&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id= 200708272527455:ebe83]punto 1.2[/url:ebe83]

[b:ebe83]good car bit bigger but gives you a bit of scopeof whats out there[/b:ebe83]

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=3&hassearc hed=Y&make=FORD&min_pr=6000&source=0&model=FOCUS&m ax_pr=7000&miles=1500&agerange=7&mileage=3&postcod e=rh19+3xp&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour =&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=44 &ukcarsearch_full.y=9&start=10&distance=113&adcate gory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200708272505357:ebe83]focus 1.6 new shape[/url:ebe83]

[b:ebe83]id buy this bit im an alfa whore[/b:ebe83] <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt="Twisted Evil" title="Twisted Evil" />

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=3&hassearc hed=Y&make=ALFA+ROMEO&min_pr=75&source=0&model=147 &max_pr=6000&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcod e=ls7+2lr&bodyid=0&fuelid=0&colour=&transmissionid =0&ukcarsearch_full.x=78&ukcarsearch_full.y=6&star t=9&distance=171&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=2 00709273006317:ebe83]alfa 147 1.6[/url:ebe83]

Ding Chavez

28-02-2007, 18:55 PM

You dont give a rats arse about the sound system and 0-60? THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS?

Are you barking san? Get a 1.4 engine ATLEAST, or 1.6 like me (first car, 306). Then get 3rd party insurance, and rag the fucker.

Its your first car for fuck sake, you settle down and drive normally when you purchase a different one.

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 19:07 PM

[b:0d2e9]cars are money sinks its about how much you want to put into them to be fair , if you want no worries new cars are the way to go and trade in before warranty is up everytime if you can afford it , if not cheap as chips is the way forward but you run the gauntlet of your car falling to bits and you having to outlay more money to fix it or replace it unexpectantly[/b:0d2e9]

Snack

28-02-2007, 19:36 PM

[quote="Ding Chavez":4d8c3]
You dont give a rats arse about the sound system and 0-60? THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS?

Are you barking san? Get a 1.4 engine ATLEAST, or 1.6 like me (first car, 306). Then get 3rd party insurance, and rag the fucker.

Its your first car for fuck sake, you settle down and drive normally when you purchase a different one.
[/quote:4d8c3]

considering i need a clean licence for the uni course i want, thats a shite idea

Snack

28-02-2007, 19:38 PM

[quote="Agi'nor":f4315]
[b:f4315]just looking about , if you buy nearly new or higher mileage secondhand sign up to a forum for whatever car you like the look of and see what they are like with a few miles on also dont be afraid to haggle with dealers if you are paying cash you will beamazed what you can squeeze out of the bastards sometimes even with HP[/b:f4315]

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=3&hassearc hed=Y&make=FIAT&min_pr=6000&source=0&model=PANDA&m ax_pr=7000&miles=1500&agerange=7&mileage=3&postcod e=rh19+3xp&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour =&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=25 &ukcarsearch_full.y=4&start=6&distance=163&adcateg ory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200702266214001:f4315]panda 1.2[/url:f4315]

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=&hassearch ed=Y&make=FIAT&min_pr=75&source=0&model=GRANDE+PUN TO&max_pr=6000&miles=100&agerange=&mileage=&postco de=ls7+2lr&bodyid=0&fuelid=0&colour=&transmissioni d=0&ukcarsearch_full.x=58&ukcarsearch_full.y=13&st art=6&distance=90&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id= 200708272527455:f4315]punto 1.2[/url:f4315]

[b:f4315]good car bit bigger but gives you a bit of scopeof whats out there[/b:f4315]

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=3&hassearc hed=Y&make=FORD&min_pr=6000&source=0&model=FOCUS&m ax_pr=7000&miles=1500&agerange=7&mileage=3&postcod e=rh19+3xp&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour =&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=44 &ukcarsearch_full.y=9&start=10&distance=113&adcate gory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200708272505357:f4315]focus 1.6 new shape[/url:f4315]

[b:f4315]id buy this bit im an alfa whore[/b:f4315] <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_twisted.gif" alt="Twisted Evil" title="Twisted Evil" />

[url=http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/CARS_popup.asp?searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search _used_cars_full&photo=1&state=none&sort=3&hassearc hed=Y&make=ALFA+ROMEO&min_pr=75&source=0&model=147 &max_pr=6000&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcod e=ls7+2lr&bodyid=0&fuelid=0&colour=&transmissionid =0&ukcarsearch_full.x=78&ukcarsearch_full.y=6&star t=9&distance=171&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=2 00709273006317:f4315]alfa 147 1.6[/url:f4315]
[/quote:f4315]

fuck me, theres a bunch of 5 door grande puntos, less than 5k miles all going for under 6k round my area on autotrader

Agi'nor

28-02-2007, 19:49 PM

[b:69c53]testdrive them matey i have a pre grande punto shape punto on a 51 plate thats done 20k mate and it never skipped a beat when i drove it so id say get it was cheap as chips to run too [/b:69c53]

-MAGIC-

28-02-2007, 20:04 PM

The only car that would suit you is a lada.

Taras

28-02-2007, 20:48 PM

bah wish mummy bought me one <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /> fuckin rip of these days

Firo

28-02-2007, 23:54 PM

[quote="Taras":fcfa7]
bah wish mummy bought me one <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /> fuckin rip of these days
[/quote:fcfa7]
It's for mummy too though =p

Salva

01-03-2007, 00:02 AM

hm the new fiestas are pretty good or u could always go for a 206 or something <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt="Surprised" title="Surprised" /> i dunno ffs i drive a van :p

Snack

01-03-2007, 07:04 AM

[quote="Firo":ed035]
[quote="Taras":ed035]
bah wish mummy bought me one <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /> fuckin rip of these days
[/quote:ed035]
It's for mummy too though =p[/quote:ed035]

fat chance she'll get to drive it though <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" title="Razz" />

Taras

02-03-2007, 22:54 PM

[quote="Salva":f989d]
hm the new fiestas are pretty good or u could always go for a 206 or something <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt="Surprised" title="Surprised" /> i dunno ffs i drive a van :p
[/quote:f989d]

Knew you was a woman <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" title="Razz" />

clea

03-03-2007, 10:33 AM

<a href="http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=macompact00191ob.jpg">http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 0191ob.jpg</a>

buy my bmw, 9000, i accept paypal <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mrgreen.gif" alt="Mr. Green" title="Mr. Green" />

Groam

05-03-2007, 15:25 PM

In Sweden every car has to go through a kind of safety check up every year, making sure everything works on the car, like breaks, steering, bumpers etc. My brother works whit this and have given me some warning about some cars.

The first you want to avoid is French cars. Quality is crap on them and they got some weird mechanical solutions for things. Mercedes is also to be avoided. The suspention on them are a deathtrap.. Hyundai and KIA are not especially good in quality and also the newer Volvos means trouble. Opel/Vauxhall floors are vulnerable to corossion and will rust within a few years.

The best manufacturer for passing these tests year after year is Toyota, followed by the other Japaneese cars. Also the Volvo 940 is a good car by means of quality, though I think its engine is kinda thirsty.

So.. If you want quality, go for something Japaneese, like Toyota or maybe a Mazda.

Starko

05-03-2007, 16:13 PM

[quote="Groam":7bb8f]
So.. If you want quality, go for something Japaneese
[/quote:7bb8f]

stiggy says the same about his SCAT pr0n collection.

Stig

05-03-2007, 19:38 PM

[quote="Starko":56599]
[quote="Groam":56599]
So.. If you want quality, go for something Japaneese
[/quote:56599]

stiggy says the same about his SCAT pr0n collection.[/quote:56599]

this is true, however i dont remember telling you this

tomcat

05-03-2007, 20:02 PM

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1986-LOTUS-ESPRIT-SERIES-3-N-A_W0QQitemZ220083141571QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43114QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1986-LOTUS-ESPRIT ... dZViewItem</a>

pity u cant stretch that budget a little

clea

06-03-2007, 09:01 AM

avoid fiat & renault...
but peugeot & citroen can be good with the new eco hdi 1,4l - 70ps.

the new c30 from volvo is awesome... but expensive.