Man conceals castle behind bales of hay for 4 years

[Gohma]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/24/nhouse124.xml

impressive

[Starko]

ewwww

its the torrigraph

[Delta]

I don't understand why they want to 'bulldoze' it... He can't just pay for
the house? (I mean to buy the necessary papers or something.)

[Zadokk]

He was refused planning permission, which meant that he was not allowed to build a house on that land. So instead of giving up on the idea he went and built a house on there anyway. That's illegal. If they let him keep it then it's basically saying that it's alright to break the law just as long as your persistent enough.

I say knock it down. The fucker knew he shouldn't have built his house there and he did it anyway. It's his own fault.

[tomcat]

i say make him knock it down why should us taxpayers foot the bill

[Deepsea]

Totally agree with Zad on this one.

And to make matters more amusing, not only will it get bulldozed, in most of these cases the owner of the structure is also billed for the cost to bulldoze it!

If we just let anyone build wherever they want, as long as nobody notices for 4 years and can then just pay for the paperwork to be approved, there'd be no point having things such as national parks or protected green belt zones.

It's a funny story, for sure, but the last laugh will very much belong to the Local Council :)

[Starko]

He was refused planning permission, which meant that he was not allowed to build a house on that land. So instead of giving up on the idea he went and built a house on there anyway. That's illegal. If they let him keep it then it's basically saying that it's alright to break the law just as long as your persistent enough.

I say knock it down. The fucker knew he shouldn't have built his house there and he did it anyway. It's his own fault.

agreed

he didn't have permission thus shouldn't of built it. Simple.

[Agi'nor]

cunt tbh

[-MAGIC-]

i wonder how much of that house was built to the regs....

[Starko]

approx. fuck all?

[Agi'nor]

lets hope they give a date for bulldozing we can all go and watch and laugh

[Starko]

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[Agi'nor]

indeed

[Starko]

pr0 as fuck.

remind me to actually get a quote for that shit closer to the time

[Delta]

He was refused planning permission, which meant that he was not allowed to build a house on that land. So instead of giving up on the idea he went and built a house on there anyway. That's illegal. If they let him keep it then it's basically saying that it's alright to break the law just as long as your persistent enough.

I say knock it down. The fucker knew he shouldn't have built his house there and he did it anyway. It's his own fault.
Allright,now I understand all and so I agree with you. :P

lets hope they give a date for bulldozing we can all go and watch and laugh

Errm... It would be a bit costy for me to go and watch it. Some should
record it. :D

[Firo]

I like how his cunting neighbours don't complain about a huge massive pile of straw but when a decentish looking house is displayed they instantly get fucked off, shit cunts

[Starko]

rah's tbh, what you expect.

and he blatantly isn't a proper farmer, because if he was he neighbours wouldn't be close enough to see the shit.

[Firo]

not true at all, alot of farmers in this area have infact sold parts of their land for housing development, this normally leading up to the house and leaving the rest of the land for farming work

[podge]

however, it actually looks like a really nice property so it's some cunts really in the area who are causing the problems. Besides, how much shit do councils build after awarding planning permission to dodgy individuals/firms... oh wait, there's a financial incentive for letting them do it.

Sure, he did wrong, but then what reasons were given for turning his application down? doesn't he have like 150 acres or something? Maybe they insisted he farm and contribute more in tax or something

[Firo]

Councils are shit for that kind of stuff nowadays, a family friend bought a large house from newcastle uni or something like that for about 1.3mill... because the house is so old it's under council attack because nothing is allowed to be changed, even though the house is in a terrible state they aren't allowed to update the house and they even have to get permissions to refurbish the place to look exactly the same and if it's wrong which it often is told is wrong they have to rip it all apart and put it back as before. Then have to go through the permissions again :S

[podge]

councils = bureaucratic parasites 'elected' by about 12 people in a borough

[-MAGIC-]

Councils are shit for that kind of stuff nowadays, a family friend bought a large house from newcastle uni or something like that for about 1.3mill... because the house is so old it's under council attack because nothing is allowed to be changed, even though the house is in a terrible state they aren't allowed to update the house and they even have to get permissions to refurbish the place to look exactly the same and if it's wrong which it often is told is wrong they have to rip it all apart and put it back as before. Then have to go through the permissions again :S

should of brought a house that wasent listed :)

[podge]

should of brought a house that wasent listed :)

but brought the house from where? Oh, you meant bought!

(Podgified!)

[Zadokk]

Zing!

[Firo]

should of brought a house that wasent listed :)

He's a very much "see his money but has none no more" kind of guy, so he doesn't look into anything like that... he just buys it... hell he bought a brand new bentley continental gt when they came out to look good and it's too fast for him... good fun driving it though :p

[Ta Swavo]

What I think is a joke is this makes a total FARSE of the planning laws in an unexpected way

The eyesore that was there before (that's not a haystack like on the farms I've been or worked on) was not complained about by neighbours - or if it was they would have been told to fuck off by the council.

If he had built a huge farming storage thing out of wood for hay - all would be ok....

The issue here is the green belt - so it's his postcode that disallows him building rights. And the reason the council don't like that is this - seen throughout the UK in all manner of councils....

There is no 'green belt' except as decided by councils - and they will allow encroachment into green belts where there is 'need and benefit to the community' - which means where people need houses and a large contractor plans to employ local sub-contractors. Councillors get to discuss this at length in many, many meetings with large paid-for lunches or evening presentations (with free food and booze).

He did what isn't allowed by the council - many councils change their rules depending upon local employment or offered hospitality - but only where covered and explained by 'corporate discussion'

It's a farce - this guy cut the crap and needs to trash his house (the law) - he does NOT need to clear it away - if I was him I'd take it legally as far as I could and failing that - knock it down and leave the rubble !

No farmer has to clean his site of rubble - so the nice neighbours will have something fun to look at instead of a house - a heap of bricks


*edit* in fact he could do good business - have other farmers nationwide to pay him to deal with their old farming equipment - put in on his land at the borders with those neighbours and let it rust into the ground :)

[Starko]

tl;dr: countryside is a bad thing and we should concrete the rest of the country just like the south east.

wtf?

[Firo]

countryside > anything, there's something spectacular about getting to the end of your road and being opened out to a huge spread of countryside that looks awesome, would never move anywhere down south for that reason... unless of course it was cornwall!

[Starko]

used to be a bit like that were i lived.

gotta admit, the one thing i hate most about being in a city is...well...being in a city.

[Zadokk]

Well there's upsides and downsides to anywhere you live. You get a lot from living in a city but you also suffer a lot too. Not sure I could live my whole life in the country side and I don't want to live in the city my whole life either.

[Starko]

well yea...

nice things about living in the middle town

easy access to shops, pubs, clubs, bars, food, etc etc etc

but you're always surround by people wherever you go...and the lack of green does start to get pretty fucking depressive....

[Firo]

Depends if you like to drive though, it's 5-10mins drive for me to get to nearest club/bars/food joints. Got 3 pubs and 3 shops in the village though so not all that bad.

[decanus]

Ii think he should be allowed to keep it because its on his land if they dont want shit happening to these "green belts" they should just take the land and say it belongs to the country/goverment, i am sure 195 acres minus 1 for his house and a large garden area isnt gonna take that much away from it, and has people of said if this was someone with money they'd be much less bitching from the local council.

[Starko]

its the principle though.

they let this one slide, and people can use it as precedent.

[Deepsea]

countryside > anything, there's something spectacular about getting to the end of your road and being opened out to a huge spread of countryside that looks awesome, would never move anywhere down south for that reason... unless of course it was cornwall!

That's why I love where I live, it's the best of both worlds. Am only 15-20 mins away from Newcastle, but Durham is a nice mix of village/small town/city/greenery vibes all melding into each other. I couldn't live smack bang in the middle of a city, it'd just do my head in.

[Agi'nor]

city is cack

[tomcat]

i skimmed this thread tbh so if i got it wrong then flames accepted.

i think that the good thing about councils is that anyone can be elected. with a bit of effort even u can represent a small area. a few thousand pound can get someone elected to a small council. in the usa u need millions. we must not forget that we can all vote and that we dont have to vote for the mainstream. if enuff people want it ,and if he stands we could get martin oniel in charge of birmingham city council.

i now its an extreme eg but its still true . despite the efforts of labour to sell us to europe we still have a vote over local governance. we shouldnt abuse that right but we ignore it at our peril....